: Hey, I'm just a Marathon fan telling you want I want to
: see. If you want to dissappoint the fans, keep it up.
You are _A_ fan, not the entire fanbase. We'd love to please you, but we can't please everyone.
: Well, excuse me, but that's just plain stupid. If you
: want this MOD to sound like it's ancient, then you're
: on the right track. Who gives a shit about where the
: sounds come from? Especially, if they sound better and
: professional. Did you know that you can buy a sound CD
: pack for around $1000 that has MOST OF THE MARATHON
: SOUNDS IN IT? Where the hell did you think Bungie got
: their sounds? 75% of them weren't original my friend,
: and if you actually knew what you were talking about
: here, you would know that you could recognize Marathon
: sounds in other Hollywood Movies, Japanamation titles,
: games, and so forth. Check out Macross Plus for some
: Marathon Infinity sounds. There's at least ten of them
: in there.
: And why does it have to be original or Marathon or
: nothing? Because you want M:R to be pureblood
: Marathon? Wake up, idiot. You're running it on Unreal
: Tournament.
It is of little concern to us what scrupules you have, but we will do things with M:R by the book. I think you are severely underestimating the people that are part of this team and the experience and knowledge we might have about legal terms, game design, production and other aspects. I am not here to argue your point, I'm just stating ours. We have certain guidelines and requirements to abide by during this project...you can either adhere to them, or move on. It is not something we will compromise on.
: Well when are you going to wrap this up? You said it
: yourself that it took 2 years to get THIS far. And a
: remake of a 1994 game needs all the help it can get.
Correct, we need help with the project in the direction it has been set. We do not need help with somebody telling us what direction we should go in. That's what 3rd party scenarios (or an M2 or MInf) are for.
: Sure, I'd like to make Marathon 2053 right now, but how
: many people know their way around Unreal Tournament
: 2003's source code, or any other great, fresh game. We
: have an engine that is old by professional game
: standards, but we're not professional. We're a
: third-party crew, and third-part crews always deal
: with older software than the latest title. You want to
: wait for greener pastures? You might be waiting
: forever...
That's exactly the point..YOU might be waiting forever. It HAS taken a very long time to get this far and we're still NOT done...so the key is to finish, AFTER which we can think of extra bits and pieces to be improved upon. Don't fool yourself into thinking that we're not aware about how EVERYTHING in M:R can be improved up on ad infinitum...All of it can, and it always will be possible to improve...But you have to draw the line somewhere, and FINISH something at some point.
: Well where's M:R 2? Where's M:R Infinity? Where's M:R
: Tempus Irae? That's what I was talking about. I was
: talking about breathing new life into third party
: titles. Haven't seen any yet. Maybe you need help
: reading what I say.
All 3rd party scenarios can be ported once M:R is done, and the vast majority of the work is already in place for someone to start now. If a serious project goes underway, we are able to give moral support and advice now...the key is to find commited people to see something through...
: This conversation has gotten heated, and I want to
: apologize for that. 
I'm not your enemy. I want to
: contribute. I really admire and appreciate what you've
: already accomplished.
Thanks. No offense, but calling someone an idiot isn't the way to show appreciation...rest assured we are able to see through that, but I suggest a more tactful approach in the future.
: I don't know how old you are, but from how you just
: responded, I'd say a temper-tantrum five.
: Maybe a still-wetting-the-bed six.
See above...In any objective discussion the point to refute should be the points made, not the person or the method used, otherwise it's not a discussion forum. I might add that Ethe has dedicated countless hours to this project and is a very able, and professional individual to work with to get things accomplished on time. His maturity and dependability far exceed the tact you've shown in this message (I'm certain you are otherwise NOT like this). If you wish to be a part of this team, you must learn to remain calm and rational under a lot more pressure and heat.
Once again, thanks for offering your help. The areas we need help in at the moment are SFX, mapping and music if you can track. Everything else is secondary and will most likely NOT be addressed until the big milestones are achieved. We welcome suggestions for anything, but you must understand our priorities and goals.
