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Re: Map Progress

Posted By: randomer
Date: 2004.12.15.02.47

In Response To: Re: Map Progress (quagmire)

: I tinkered with it over the weekend (with the supplied
: map) and had some difficulties -- not with the app
: itself, but with UnrealEd. When I would bring in the
: map, rebuild all, and then click on the Cube tool --
: UnrealEd would crash.
: Then, after I imported, rebuilt, added a few lights and
: then Tested the map, UT2004 launched the map
: successfully, but didn't have any keyboard controls.
: couldn't quit, could only move with the
: middle-mouse-button, that sort of thing.
: so, i recommend: open UnrealEd, import the map, rebuild,
: save, quit, open unrealed and then the map. after
: that, it seems to behave itself.
: shrug.
This probably has something to do with how I generate the .t3d data. I reverse engineered the format for the most part, so I could have missed something or gotten it wrong.
MMC was primarly designed as a guide to make building the maps (in Quake 3 incidentally) by hand easier. When I came across the M:R effort I added the .t3d support, which turned out to be easier than supporting Quake maps.
Unreal maps are inside-out in the sense that the world is solid and you add empty spaces to form rooms. This makes things easy since Marathon maps are inside out too; Quake maps need walls and floors and ceilings.

Messages In This Thread

Map Progress -- Tycho -- 2004.12.3.01.02
- Re: Map Progress -- Mr TOZ-T -- 2004.12.6.15.50
- Re: Map Progress -- Barballs -- 2004.12.6.12.25
  - Re: Map Progress -- Tycho -- 2004.12.6.12.59
    - Re: Map Progress -- Barballs -- 2004.12.7.03.45
      - Re: Map Progress -- Tycho -- 2004.12.7.14.57
        
        Re: Map Progress -- Barballs -- 2004.12.8.02.04
        
        Re: Map Progress -- Kraken -- 2004.12.20.10.46
        
        Re: Map Progress -- Wolfchild -- 2004.12.13.12.03
        
        Re: Map Progress -- randomer -- 2004.12.11.16.26
        
        Re: Map Progress -- quagmire -- 2004.12.13.11.55
        
        Re: Map Progress -- randomer -- 2004.12.15.02.47
        
        Re: Map Progress -- Designator_Hawk -- 2004.12.16.05.51
- Low Flying Thingies... -- Designator_Hawk -- 2004.12.3.20.46
  - Check the e-mail you listed here... *NT* -- Tycho -- 2004.12.5.16.06
    - M1A1! -- Designator_Hawk -- 2004.12.6.14.19
      - Re: M1A1! -- Kraken -- 2004.12.20.10.53
        
        Re: M1A1! -- Designator_Hawk -- 2004.12.21.04.53
      - Re: M1A1! -- Mr TOZ-T -- 2004.12.6.15.42
        
        Running Aleph on a PC -- Designator Hawk -- 2004.12.8.07.38
        
        Re: Running Aleph on a PC -- Wolfchild -- 2004.12.13.12.22
        
        Level 21 in 30 seconds... -- Designator_Hawk -- 2004.12.15.01.17
        
        Re: Level 21 in 30 seconds... -- Barballs -- 2005.1.25.11.01
        
        Re: Level 21 in 30 seconds... -- Designator_Hawk -- 2005.1.26.20.41
        
        Re: Level 21 in 30 seconds... -- Barballs -- 2005.1.27.06.51
        
        Re: Level 21 in 30 seconds... -- Designator_Hawk -- 2005.2.2.01.19
  - Re: Eye Candy -- Tycho -- 2004.12.4.00.51

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